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Again, my apologies that I have not had time to tidy this up.
Denials of a European Army (from the British Government and from other EU supporters)
Nick Clegg April 2014 when he was Deputy Prime Minister of Britain.
"This is a dangerous fantasy. The idea that there's going to be a European air force, a European army, it is simply not true." This was Nick Clegg, 2 April 2014, speaking in debate. He then goes on to describe the rumours of an EU military as “conspiracy theory”. “It is not going to happen”. Listen for yourself here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd9rsmD4HiM&feature=youtu.be&t=15m40s
Clearly - the creation of an EU army is not a “conspiracy theory”, it is a “conspiracy fact.”
British Government spokesman March 2015 states that there will not be a European Army.
European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker called for the creation of a European army. In reply a “UK government spokesman said defence was a national responsibility and there was no prospect of a European army.”
As reported by BBC News, 9 March 2015, listen and read here https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-31796337
David Cameron February 2016
Speaking as Prime Minister of Britain, he agrees that there will be a European Army but states that Britain will never be a part of it.
“And we will never be part of eurozone bailouts, the passport-free area, the European army or an EU superstate”
This is Cameron’s infamous speech where he claims to have achieved a major reform of the EU which will be legally blinding. Not a single one of the reforms came to pass, not even the smallest detail. Read it for yourself here:
Let’s cut clear from weasel words
Either the British military is wholly independent and answerable to the Crown and is a part of NATA - or it is a part of an EU military. It cannot be a bit of both. As soon as it Britain’s defence becomes a part of the EU Common Defence Policy, it is no longer under Britain’s sovereign control.
The EU has a Common Defence Policy.
The questions are:
1. Who controls the British military, Britain or the EU?
At this moment British troops are in the Ukraine - for reasons that are solely the concern of the Germany and the EU and nothing to do with Britain.
2. Can the British Army (together with the Navy and Air Force) act as an independent force? Does it have confident, loyal and well-trained men and women? Does it have a sensible collection of ships, aircraft, vehicles and guns together with the factories and shipyards to build the hardware? Does Britain have the factories to build the bullets, bombs, explosives and all the clothing, food supplies and equipment needed by British troops?
The answer to this question is a resounding “No”. It is not merely that Britain has two massive aircraft carriers but no aeroplanes to put on them, but across all areas Britain does not have the independent capability that it did 40 years ago. The troops themselves have been treated abysmally to the point, in some cases, of psychological destruction and all state sanctioned. There is something exceedingly bad going on.
The British military has been profoundly compromised. For reasons that are not clear, the British military has been run-down as a force and is already largely subsumed into EU control. This cannot have happened by accident but only in compliance with a long-term strategy. Whose strategy is it and by what mechanism does it operate? I do not know - and the British public needs to find out. The question of course is of great interest also to Britain’s long-term allies, in particular the people of America, Australia, New Zealand and those many people across the globe who look to Britain to protect their freedom.
Weasel words and Propaganda: How to spread lies without being, at that moment in time, factually incorrect. Here is a beauty from The Guardian where the writer neatly ignores the long-term strategy to remove Britain’s ability to act unilaterally as a sovereign nation state, as well as thoroughly documented long-term strategy of the EU to create a single unified state of Europe. The writer implies that the warning voices are motivated by malice and madness.
Some interesting extracts:
Jennifer Rankin in Brussels Fri 27 May 2016
Is there a secret plan to create an EU army? Claims from the leave side about moves to unify Europe’s armed forces are nothing more than fantasy.
Alongside Brussels bans on bendy bananas and high-powered toasters, few subjects get leave campaigners as hot under the collar as the prospect of an EU army. On Friday Nigel Farage, the UKIP leader, accused the remain side of lying about moves to create one, while the former defence secretary Liam Fox warned darkly that “Europe’s defence intentions are a dangerous fantasy” that risked cutting the UK off from the US, “our closest and most powerful ally”.
It is no secret that the EU has a common defence and security policy. Tony Blair practically invented it when he signed a defence cooperation agreement with Jacques Chirac in 1998.
At the end of June the EU’s foreign policy chief, Federica Mogherini, will outline a “global strategy on foreign and security policy”. That grandly titled paper will call for deeper EU security and military cooperation, an aim supported by many countries, including Germany.
But, contrary to reports, it will not propose an EU army. “There is absolutely no plan to set up an EU army with the global strategy,” a spokeswoman for Mogherini said.
Paddy Ashdown (former Liberal Democrat leader) said the idea of an EU army was “nonsense” and “for the birds”.
An EU army marching out to war under Brussels’ command is a fantasy shared by Eurosceptics and a small number of federalists. Europe will continue down the road of defence cooperation in a halting way, but an EU army is only for armchair generals.
Building an EU army out of the gaze of public interest:
From Veterans for Britain:
The leaders of ‘Project EU’ are now openly calling for an EU Armed Forces. However, the concept is ALREADY well on the way. A range of new EU deals struck in 2017 push the EU’s Common Defence Policy a long way towards its destination of ‘Common Defence’ – the Lisbon Treaty term for a unitary military.
Here we profile the 10 common mistakes by politicians and pundits in relation to an ‘EU Armed Forces’:
1. Claim: “An EU army is a distant fantasy and would require treaty change.”
In fact, the concept has been in the Lisbon Treaty for more than a decade and the EU Commission has been beavering away on the groundwork.
2. Claim: “The EU has done nothing since creating a Common Defence Policy.”
From June 2016, the groundwork went into a higher gear and the EU was able to combine the political levers over member states’ armed forces. New joint budgets, new political centralisation, new command centres were all announced and rapidly agreed in a series of meetings between member states from November 2016 to November 2017.
The EU Commission then took rapid steps to maximise these gains. When Brussels described the manoeuvres as the ‘foundation for a true EU Defence Union’, a confused public didn’t howl in opposition, so the technocrats pressed further. The EU Commission announced that one of its ambitions was to activate Common Defence ‘by 2025’.
Article 42 of the Lisbon Treaty declares: